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		<title>By: Phyllis Mallah</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-346709</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyllis Mallah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did ot answer my question...where ca I get the installion disc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did ot answer my question…where ca I get the installion disc</p>
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		<title>By: sofie</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-324878</link>
		<dc:creator>sofie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks heaps for the info, especially for scanning. I have spent hours trying to work out.
after reading your post, it was working within 10 minutes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks heaps for the info, especially for scanning. I have spent hours trying to work out.<br />
after reading your post, it was working within 10 minutes!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-306225</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using the network interface to scan (not thru the web port).  I&#039;m stunned at how long this thing takes to scan (and send over the network) and that no one else has criticized this yet!  It takes over a minute to scan anything over the network, and if I open task manager in XP at the time and monitor the network, I can see that it&#039;s sustaining only 4 Mbit usage of the 100Mbit connection.  Not sure if the network was the bottleneck, I tested scanning to a memory card and it was lighting fast, confirming that the network is the choker.  I haven&#039;t tried USB yet, but I suspect that would be faster, and may be the reason this problem is apparently masked.  Not using the network interface takes a lot of this printer&#039;s advantages away though.

Other criticisms:
- Scan to email seems to ignore MAPI and *ONLY* uses Outlook clients?  This stinks, but seems to be the case.
- Software is bloated, sucks, and takes ages to install.  (WinXP at least)
- No option to manually add additional &quot;Scan To&quot; applications.  Lame.

Open question:
Does Vista work any better with this printer, or at least, retain all the existing functionality?

If anyone else sees performance beyond the 4Mbit cap, I&#039;m interested in what you&#039;re seeing.  Or also if you have information about Vista, my email is jeremyenosATyahoo.com if you care to discuss.
thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m using the network interface to scan (not thru the web port).  I’m stunned at how long this thing takes to scan (and send over the network) and that no one else has criticized this yet!  It takes over a minute to scan anything over the network, and if I open task manager in XP at the time and monitor the network, I can see that it’s sustaining only 4 Mbit usage of the 100Mbit connection.  Not sure if the network was the bottleneck, I tested scanning to a memory card and it was lighting fast, confirming that the network is the choker.  I haven’t tried USB yet, but I suspect that would be faster, and may be the reason this problem is apparently masked.  Not using the network interface takes a lot of this printer’s advantages away though.</p>
<p>Other criticisms:<br />
– Scan to email seems to ignore MAPI and *ONLY* uses Outlook clients?  This stinks, but seems to be the case.<br />
– Software is bloated, sucks, and takes ages to install.  (WinXP at least)<br />
– No option to manually add additional “Scan To” applications.  Lame.</p>
<p>Open question:<br />
Does Vista work any better with this printer, or at least, retain all the existing functionality?</p>
<p>If anyone else sees performance beyond the 4Mbit cap, I’m interested in what you’re seeing.  Or also if you have information about Vista, my email is jeremyenosATyahoo.com if you care to discuss.<br />
thx.</p>
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		<title>By: Wouter</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-278049</link>
		<dc:creator>Wouter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a question; Does any know where i can find the driver for this HP Photosmart 2160,
Please post the link and email me, wout-erv14@live.nl.

Already thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve got a question; Does any know where i can find the driver for this HP Photosmart 2160,<br />
Please post the link and email me, <a href="mailto:wout-erv14@live.nl">wout-erv14@live.nl</a>.</p>
<p>Already thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: I need a multi purpose printer; any recommendations? : Computers &#38; Internet</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-119228</link>
		<dc:creator>I need a multi purpose printer; any recommendations? : Computers &#38; Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 04:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] printer; any recommendations?     try the hp photosmart 2610 all in one.  go here to check it out http://josh.st/blog/2005/08/26/hp-photos... go for HP and its makes HP all in one is the cheapest and works well. Fax scan and copy and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] printer; any recommendations?     try the hp photosmart 2610 all in one.  go here to check it out <a href="http://josh.st/blog/2005/08/26/hp-photos.." rel="nofollow">http://josh.st/blog/2005/08/26/hp-photos..</a>. go for HP and its makes HP all in one is the cheapest and works well. Fax scan and copy and the […]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-6476</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow. Only just got around to testing it, but yeah, works brilliantly. To clarify, you want &quot;HP Standard TCP/IP Port&quot;, and then type in the IP address and Windows XP will automatically fill in the port name for you -- for me, that means it&#039;s IP_192.168.0.4 (but I only had to enter 192.168.0.4).

This obviously means you need to statically assign your printer an IP, either on the printer itself or by setting up your DHCP server so it binds that MAC address to a specific IP when assigning -- but chances are if you&#039;re cluey enough to know not to run XP as a priviledged user, this won&#039;t be too big a deal.

I&#039;ll post this more prominently in a bit... right now I&#039;m just enjoying printing from this (XP) computer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow. Only just got around to testing it, but yeah, works brilliantly. To clarify, you want “HP Standard TCP/IP Port”, and then type in the IP address and Windows XP will automatically fill in the port name for you — for me, that means it’s IP_192.168.0.4 (but I only had to enter 192.168.0.4).</p>
<p>This obviously means you need to statically assign your printer an IP, either on the printer itself or by setting up your DHCP server so it binds that MAC address to a specific IP when assigning — but chances are if you’re cluey enough to know not to run XP as a priviledged user, this won’t be too big a deal.</p>
<p>I’ll post this more prominently in a bit… right now I’m just enjoying printing from this (XP) computer!</p>
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		<title>By: Danilo</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-6154</link>
		<dc:creator>Danilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found a way to fix it !!!! (The problem that only admin users can print).
Just open the printer settings. (Right click on &quot;HP Photosmart 2610 series, than left click on properties).
Click on the &quot;Ports&quot; tab.
&quot;Add port&quot;
You should choose  &quot;Standard TCP/IP port&quot; or &quot;HP Standard TCP/IP port&quot;. I just can&#039;t remember which one i have chosen.
Click &quot;Next&quot; at the wizzard screen.
On the next screen you need to put the correct IP address of your HP 2610 printer. Click &quot;Next&quot;.

There you go ! 

Now you can print logged in with any user account (not only administrators).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found a way to fix it !!!! (The problem that only admin users can print).<br />
Just open the printer settings. (Right click on “HP Photosmart 2610 series, than left click on properties).<br />
Click on the “Ports” tab.<br />
“Add port“<br />
You should choose  “Standard TCP/IP port” or “HP Standard TCP/IP port”. I just can’t remember which one i have chosen.<br />
Click “Next” at the wizzard screen.<br />
On the next screen you need to put the correct IP address of your HP 2610 printer. Click “Next”.</p>
<p>There you go ! </p>
<p>Now you can print logged in with any user account (not only administrators).</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-6093</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Danilo, 9:23am:

Yeah, mentioned that in the above review. No known fix at the minute, &lt;em&gt;except&lt;/em&gt; not using the HP drivers (but that could mean you can&#039;t get the network thing to happen) and running it with whatever Windows XP automatically supplies. You obviously then have to network scan via HTTP, and lose fax capabilities.

@Danilo, 9:27am:

I haven&#039;t seen a way to, either. But then why do you need to? That &quot;problem&quot; just comes down to good network architecture... plus seeing as this is squarely targetted at SoHo users I don&#039;t think further complicating things by introducing port settings as well is within the product&#039;s scope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Danilo, 9:23am:</p>
<p>Yeah, mentioned that in the above review. No known fix at the minute, <em>except</em> not using the HP drivers (but that could mean you can’t get the network thing to happen) and running it with whatever Windows XP automatically supplies. You obviously then have to network scan via HTTP, and lose fax capabilities.</p>
<p>@Danilo, 9:27am:</p>
<p>I haven’t seen a way to, either. But then why do you need to? That “problem” just comes down to good network architecture… plus seeing as this is squarely targetted at SoHo users I don’t think further complicating things by introducing port settings as well is within the product’s scope.</p>
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		<title>By: Danilo</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-6086</link>
		<dc:creator>Danilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other comment... 

I don&#039;t found how to change the port of http printer server.
Maybe is impossible to chose other port than port 80</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other comment… </p>
<p>I don’t found how to change the port of http printer server.<br />
Maybe is impossible to chose other port than port 80</p>
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		<title>By: Danilo</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-6085</link>
		<dc:creator>Danilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP SUCKS !!!!!!!!! 
I have one HP 2160 and i don&#039;t will buy HP product anymore.
I&#039;m using Windows XP Professional.
Only administrators can use the printer etc...  ? 
I called hp suport and they said that is a problem for Microsoft suport. But... 
ONLY THIS CRAP CAN&#039;T PRINT BY A USER ACCOUNT. Any other printer works fine as an simple user account, or users group. 
I did all drivers updates at this moment, all windows updates for my Windows XP Professional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP SUCKS !!!!!!!!!<br />
I have one HP 2160 and i don’t will buy HP product anymore.<br />
I’m using Windows XP Professional.<br />
Only administrators can use the printer etc…  ?<br />
I called hp suport and they said that is a problem for Microsoft suport. But…<br />
ONLY THIS CRAP CAN’T PRINT BY A USER ACCOUNT. Any other printer works fine as an simple user account, or users group.<br />
I did all drivers updates at this moment, all windows updates for my Windows XP Professional.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-4508</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laser MFD? I haven&#039;t seen any on the market, and even for a standalone printer, $800+ is costly.

I&#039;d also argue your &quot;most users&quot; is a gross generalisation, especially with the proliferation of digital camera devices. Incorporation of PictBridge and memory card support is in direct response to this, and people don&#039;t want to print their photos in black and white. Most of the time.

We don&#039;t pay for print consumables, but Officeworks sells replacement cartridges for roughly $40 each... fairly standard. For comparison purposes, our Officejet G85 had 42ml cartidges, and we probably replaced that once every two--three months. The standard sized cartridge for this printer is 28ml, which is nearly three quarters the capacity. The G85&#039;s cartridges were $56 each, so cost wise it works out about the same.

You can fax over the network using HP&#039;s software, but not via the web interface. I haven&#039;t tested faxing, as we don&#039;t use it normally (and hence don&#039;t have a line available for it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laser MFD? I haven’t seen any on the market, and even for a standalone printer, $800+ is costly.</p>
<p>I’d also argue your “most users” is a gross generalisation, especially with the proliferation of digital camera devices. Incorporation of PictBridge and memory card support is in direct response to this, and people don’t want to print their photos in black and white. Most of the time.</p>
<p>We don’t pay for print consumables, but Officeworks sells replacement cartridges for roughly $40 each… fairly standard. For comparison purposes, our Officejet G85 had 42ml cartidges, and we probably replaced that once every two–three months. The standard sized cartridge for this printer is 28ml, which is nearly three quarters the capacity. The G85’s cartridges were $56 each, so cost wise it works out about the same.</p>
<p>You can fax over the network using HP’s software, but not via the web interface. I haven’t tested faxing, as we don’t use it normally (and hence don’t have a line available for it).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-4507</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t understand why anyone would buy an ink-based printer these days - granted, colour laserjet printers are somewhat costly (yet sub-$1000 if you look in the right places), but for most users, a black and white printer will be perfectly substantial - plus will equate to a saving of hundreds of dollars worth of ink cartidges.

With cartridges the size they are these days, you could easily be replacing one or more per week, which ends up in excess of... let&#039;s say $50 per month - pfft.

Does this unit allow faxing over the network/web interface?

P.S. you comments form stretches crazily on IE 1024x786... boooooooo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t understand why anyone would buy an ink-based printer these days — granted, colour laserjet printers are somewhat costly (yet sub-$1000 if you look in the right places), but for most users, a black and white printer will be perfectly substantial — plus will equate to a saving of hundreds of dollars worth of ink cartidges.</p>
<p>With cartridges the size they are these days, you could easily be replacing one or more per week, which ends up in excess of… let’s say $50 per month — pfft.</p>
<p>Does this unit allow faxing over the network/web interface?</p>
<p>P.S. you comments form stretches crazily on IE 1024x786… boooooooo…</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-4498</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d disagree with the first criticism. Sure, it&#039;s plastic, but it&#039;s a fairly solid piece of plastic. My only criticism there is of the feed tray, which really isn&#039;t great. The cartridge compartments and main hinge are all very solid.

I forgot to mention the ink thing: yes, they are tiny. Far smaller than the OfficeJet used. We&#039;re just going to have to keep more in stock, but it&#039;ll be annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d disagree with the first criticism. Sure, it’s plastic, but it’s a fairly solid piece of plastic. My only criticism there is of the feed tray, which really isn’t great. The cartridge compartments and main hinge are all very solid.</p>
<p>I forgot to mention the ink thing: yes, they are tiny. Far smaller than the OfficeJet used. We’re just going to have to keep more in stock, but it’ll be annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://josh.st/2005/08/26/hp-photosmart-2610-review/#comment-4497</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to setup a few of these (or similar model) last month or so.

The features maybe nice, but I wouldn&#039;t buy one. Two main reasons. 

1) Build quality is sub-standard, the thing feels like a crappy piece of plastic.
2) Tiny ink cartridges, pretty useless really.

oh and as you&#039;ve said, the drivers are bloated and buggy.

The cheaper models are even worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to setup a few of these (or similar model) last month or so.</p>
<p>The features maybe nice, but I wouldn’t buy one. Two main reasons. </p>
<p>1) Build quality is sub-standard, the thing feels like a crappy piece of plastic.<br />
2) Tiny ink cartridges, pretty useless really.</p>
<p>oh and as you’ve said, the drivers are bloated and buggy.</p>
<p>The cheaper models are even worse.</p>
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