Summer School 2007

Beautiful feet and footprints painted on a wall

Some bits of wis­dom, mostly from Nathan San­don, who was speak­ing at the Senior High (11 – 12) pro­gramme at Sum­mer School ’07 this last week (I was lead­ing, but that doesn’t mean I can’t comment!):

Chris­t­ian life is:

  • Drop­ping beers to your mates
  • Sleep­ing fur­ther from the door
  • Squawk­ing less
  • Fly­ing more
  • Going to the ends of the earth in con­cen­tric circles
  • Trust­ing a trust­wor­thy God
  • Pick­ing up a Bible and trust­ing & learn­ing from that first­most & before what mere men have to say in churches, youth groups, bible stud­ies, etc.
  • Recog­nis­ing that if Chris­tians need grace & a rela­tion­ship with God through Christ for life, why would any­one else not need to hear that?
  • Using every­thing for Him. What are we hold­ing back?

# by Josh on January 13th, 2007 Tags: ,
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CYIADA Survey, part 1

So titled because, God will­ing, there will be more sur­veys to come.

Went down pretty well methinks. Praise God! I man­aged not to talk too long or gar­ble words too much, as evi­denced by the fact that peo­ple man­aged to write down what “CYIADA” stood for when I explained it was noth­ing to do with cryp­tosporid­ium or Syd­ney Water — some sur­veys had “Chris­t­ian Youth in a Dig­i­tal Age” neatly penned across the top next to my cryp­tic “CYIADA” acronym, which brought great joy! Obscure acronyms worked well because the pre­vi­ous spot had opened with “What does CMS mean?” (no, not the web developer’s idea of a CMS), so I was able to fol­low that up with some­thing no-one would guess, and use that as an excuse to launch into a lit­tle rant about what it was. I’m pretty sure I took under three minutes.

That three min­utes was basi­cally: for peo­ple like you (youth lead­ers); early next year (2007); gives blog, pod­cast, email & SMS tools; lets you get resources you need online instantly; best used to link back to real world ministry/promoted in real world min­istry; we want to know what you think about it/how you’d use it.

I had planned to read from a script but kinda got up and changed my mind, for what­ever rea­son — we were run­ning a cou­ple of min­utes behind, the audi­ence seemed more inti­mate than I’d thought (hadn’t seen the venue before), and I didn’t really like what I’d already writ­ten, any­way. So yes. Punchy appar­ently worked well enough.

Enough peo­ple were excited about it to make me immensely happy, and I got more than 50 sur­vey responses (from 130 print­outs, prob­a­bly 120 par­tic­i­pants as pre­dicted, but it let me cover empty seats when paper­ing the room before the ses­sion) which is so so use­ful. A few seemed very dis­in­ter­ested or gen­er­ally neg­a­tive about it, which did hurt a bit but really, there’s no way I was going to get 100% pos­i­tive feedback.

By pos­i­tive I mean sup­port­ive rather than “yes, we would use some­thing like this” — I got a lot of pos­i­tive responses that even fall out­side the product’s scope, which is frus­trat­ing in an entirely dif­fer­ent way — I’d not even con­sid­ered there might be peo­ple who only did kids min­istry at the con­fer­ence, but dis­cov­ered two lovely responses from peo­ple that had added pri­mary school years to my ques­tion, “Lead­ing kids in school years…” and cir­cled them, instead. They were inter­ested in none of the con­tact func­tion­al­ity, but were keen on per­haps start­ing to use video to sup­port what they were doing. Of course, that’s out­side the scope of what CYIADA is try­ing to do, but there’s no where else for them to get that in the same way (there are DVD-based resources for this, but not any videos avail­able online under a micro­pay­ment model).

Aggre­gate results might get pub­lished some­time. Not tonight, I think the last week has just set in (or maybe I drank a bot­tle of V this after­noon and it’s worn off? Shrug.) Either way, I’m sit­ting at work com­pletely exhausted and need to go home and sleep muchly.

(Still need to setup cyiada.com domain name quickly, before any­one sees it! Sigh… I’m so organised…)

# by Josh on December 4th, 2006 Tags: , ,
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Dead trees for a good cause

I just printed 400 pages for a sur­vey I get to do tomor­row after­noon. I was think­ing about tak­ing it to church and get­ting opin­ions from the same kinds of peo­ple there (it’s a sur­vey for CYIADA for youth lead­ers), but then realised it was pretty much use­less with them because I already knew every­thing they had to say. So it’s more of a sur­vey for really basic aggre­gate num­ber stuff, not in-depth things I couldn’t fig­ure out on my own.

Which, I’ve decided, is fine, because I’ve got a web and email address on the piece of paper, and for the num­ber of con­tacts this so-called “sur­vey” seeds I’m pray­ing it’ll be com­pletely worth it, even if no-one both­ers fill­ing in the sur­vey prop­erly. Really, $40 (or how­ever much actual cost per page is here) is pretty good if I only get 10 qual­ity leads on peo­ple who are desparately keen to use some­thing like this… and can wait a few months.

I men­tion that as trou­ble appears to be brew­ing on the home front re: the wait­ing part… :| Peo­ple are enthu­si­as­tic but in a “let’s grab a generic CMS and mix it up with Blog­ger and Google Groups and it’ll rock” kind of way. Which is fine for all of about six months, then you’ve gotta do it all over again because 1 of 3 stops work­ing for what­ever rea­son. And scal­a­bil­ity issues. Grr… any­way. I thought we’d been through all this already with our abortive Yahoo! Cal­en­dar attempts of 18 months ago. Appar­ently not.

So… please be pray­ing for wis­dom and patience around that par­tic­u­lar issue. And espe­cially that I’d be lov­ing, because right now I’m in a posi­tion where I could clob­ber peo­ple with tech­ni­cal ram­blings until they agree with me (read: relent), or sim­ply go and change it as I think it should be… but doing either of those things is obvi­ously unpro­duc­tive. Again, prayer for wis­dom is very welcome!

Prayer is also sought for tomor­row — for the Youth for Christ pro­gramme run­ning at St Andrews all day, and then for me at the Con­nect­ing in a world of change con­fer­ence as I present in my lit­tle 2.20 to 2.30 times­lot. Which is plenty of time for a geek like me — I actu­ally do enjoy pub­lic speak­ing, but that doesn’t mean I’m much good at it!

I’ve also got to get a site up for CYIADA, because I decided that if I stuck it on print mate­ri­als and did 130 copies of it, then the poten­tial for embar­ras­ment should be suf­fi­cient moti­va­tor to make me move quickly! Hehe. Really must get one of the IT guys here to setup host­ing first thing tomor­row… I fig­ure it’s okay if it’s not work­ing straight away, because I can say it’s just been put up and there’ll be some­thing there in the next cou­ple of days.

In other domain-related news I also picked up josh.st. So you should be able to get to this site via that funky URL in a few hours once DNS pushes through (the name­servers have switched, finally — .st’s NIC took for­ever with that — but obvi­ously it’s still got to prop­a­gate). I know I’m always say­ing this but there’s a new design on its way. I’ve got three sites in the works at the minute, so if it doesn’t come in a hurry don’t be too sur­prised. I doubt any­one is any­more, though!

# by Josh on December 3rd, 2006 Tags: , ,
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What Josh Does at Youthworks

I’m employed by an organ­i­sa­tion (the one I referred to in my first post about this project, wherein I didn’t bother explain­ing exactly what was going on, but hoped it would be clear to those who already knew) that exists to — amongst other things — resource youth ministry.

One thing we’ve noticed (“we” is myself and a hand­ful of oth­ers with an inter­est in the web) over the past twelve months is an uptake in web usage by youth min­istries — for obvi­ous rea­sons: that’s where kids are spend­ing their time, and it’s a great com­mu­ni­ca­tion tool, and every­one else is doing it.

When I say every­one else is doing it, I actu­ally mean every­one else is try­ing to do it. Every­one has, for the last six to twelve months, been writ­ing the same appli­ca­tions, inte­grat­ing the same soft­ware, pay­ing for the same soft­ware, attempt­ing to train the same peo­ple, and gen­er­ally doing a lot of the same stuff, sep­a­rately. With no point of inter­sec­tion or shar­ing or intel­li­gent resource management.

This is under­stand­able: after­all, the web presents a rel­a­tively new front for churches in gen­eral, and whilst kids have been wast­ing time online for years, only with the rel­a­tively recent advent of social net­work­ing web­sites (I refer to it as ‘Soc­Net’ in these parts — no-one else seems to, but I like it, so what­ever) have the less computer-inclined began spend­ing sig­nif­i­cant amounts of time in front of a keyboard.

There’s also a bit of a catch-22 when it comes to build­ing these things. Peo­ple ask, what are the ben­e­fits? We’ve never had some­one come along to youth group because of our website! — well, no, you’re right. But you also don’t have a web­site, so that’s hardly fair, is it? Nine times out of ten peo­ple will not come along to church (gener­i­cally) because they’ve searched for a church in a par­tic­u­lar sub­urb in Google (though, speak­ing of that, I’ve got to do a bit of SEO work on the Matthias site — it’s not on the first page for a “Church in Padding­ton” query. Changed the title, it’ll be a while til that kicks in. We’ll see.)

They’ll come because a friend asked if they wanted to, or they were walk­ing past and heard peo­ple inside, saw them going in, and won­dered what it was all about.

But this is hardly exclu­sive to hav­ing a web­site. If they have those points of con­tact, a web­site is a great way to invis­i­bly inves­ti­gate fur­ther with­out need­ing to make them­selves uncom­fort­able. It’s easy to find these sorts of web­sites through search engines — you walked past a church and noted its name, you remem­ber the name of your friend’s church, etc.

The same goes for youth groups, obviously.

Peo­ple have just been start­ing to realise this, or at least think of it at all and decide “yeah, we could do that”. So, there’s the ratio­nale for it all. Most peo­ple with decent web­sites already may not have con­sid­ered ratio­nale in any great depth — they’ve got a good web­site because they know some­one who makes them, and vol­un­teered their time (maybe they’re a leader), throw­ing some­thing together with Xoops in an after­noon. It’s quick and dirty, but effective.

We’re try­ing to spend a small but not insignif­i­cant amount of money to equip peo­ple to do these sorts of thing, so it’s only sen­si­ble that some more time is spent con­sid­er­ing what on earth we’re try­ing to achieve. Hence the lengthy pre­lude to what it actu­ally does.

Now, the fea­tures. We have too many tar­get audi­ences for it to be an alto­gether com­fort­able project, but that’s half the fun of it. The prod­uct is being mar­keted to churches (who pay for it) through lead­ers (who want to use it) and for youth (who actu­ally aren’t the cen­tre of the uni­verse on this one, but we need to give them UX that says they are). Out­side of these three, there are also the friends of the youth already in the appli­ca­tion who are just check­ing out the youth group page.

Of course, it’s not quite that sim­ple. We’re also mar­ket­ing this to camps, high school scrip­ture groups/lunchtime bible groups, and maybe bands/events. Which is great and tech­ni­cally only a small step, but it does pretty hor­ri­ble things when you try and explain who’s pay­ing for what in a con­cise business-like fash­ion. If you’ve read this far, chances are you’re well aware that concise-ness has never been my strong point.

So, with these tar­gets in mind, we are (firstly) going to equip them with web­sites. Big woop. WordPress.com and Blog­ger eat your heart out. Cue yawns.

No, seri­ously. We’re going to give them (‘them’ being the var­i­ous enti­ties described above, not indi­vid­u­als so much — there’s no way I’m posi­tion­ing this against other Soc­Net sites because I reckon it’s too frag­mented to last… Face­book or Myspace or Bebo or.… yes.) web pages. Wel­come to 1999.

They’re going to have web pages with cal­en­dars they can chock full of the sched­ule for the term, though. So that’s exciting.

And everyone’s going to have their own user­name, so they can leave com­ments on the inevitable blog­ging ele­ment with iden­tity — this is won­der­ful for com­ment– and generic form-spam. Inci­den­tally, I read a few blogs that Wild St peo­ple are writ­ing and was really excited to see they’re actu­ally enthu­si­as­tic about doing it. There’s quite the bunch of them on Blog­ger these days, and it’s all com­pletely autonomous — so far as I know, no-one has pushed them to start doing it. I was so proud of their keen­ness and inno­va­tion for build­ing up com­mu­nity and spread­ing the gospel! Another aside, my copy hasn’t arrived yet but I believe there’s some­thing about blog­ging in The Brief­ing for Decem­ber (it’s not on their web­site yet, either). My copy arrived today, and I dis­cov­ered the cur­rent issue is in their web­store, just not on the main site. It’s The Brief­ing #339, if you’d care to read it.

Any­way. Blogs will fea­ture. Cal­en­dars will fea­ture. All the stuff you’d rea­son­ably expect to be able to do with a CMS tool these days will fea­ture. Blogs, cal­en­dars, gal­leries, con­tact forms, sta­tic pages. Yay. So that’s the bor­ing stuff that we’ve just got to do the grunt-work for at some point (I’m sure it can be fun, but, just between you and me, I’m not really look­ing for­ward to the cou­ple of weeks we have to spend on that bit).

Now, for inter­est­ing and inno­v­a­tive fea­tures — because, let’s face it, the above is hardly enough to con­vince any­one to switch their exist­ing web­site (if indeed they have one) across to a hosted plat­form for a nom­i­nal (to be deter­mined, but prob­a­bly only payable by church groups, and not for camps/events on account of these being once-off) monthly fee.

Con­tact tools. Yummy. We’re going to give them mail­ers that make it easy to send a mes­sage to, say, all the kids in year 10. Or just guys. Or girls in year 8. Or only to your co-leaders (we’ll have a resource area where they can share files — Word doc­u­ments, PDFs, slide shows — on the site, too: that’s some of the fun CMS stuff). But email’s been done before. Everyone’s used email. Admit­tedly, some­times you just wish there’s a bet­ter way to store and man­age lists of peo­ple, and this tool will cer­tainly do that, but it’s a lit­tle bor­ing still.

So we decided it’d be a good idea to throw SMS into the mix. It’s not just a gim­mick: again, this is in response to what peo­ple are already doing. The only dif­fer­ence is it’s paid on a shared account (used by the lead­ers — the youth kids won’t have access to these tools, for fairly obvi­ous rea­sons) and inte­grates the same con­tact man­age­ment fea­tures as the mailer app. We’re hop­ing con­ve­nience will draw peo­ple across to this tool. Use sce­nar­ios are basi­cally just that you’d use this tool to inform peo­ple of what’s going on this week at youth group, or remind­ing them that the group is on bring­ing sup­per this month, etcetera. The orig­i­nat­ing num­ber will be that of a sin­gle leader, or it could even be that of that person’s own leader.

For exam­ple, one mes­sage is sent to all kids by the group co-ordinator, but that mes­sage is altered depend­ing on who the indi­vid­ual recipient’s bible study leader is, so that it appears to orig­i­nate from them. Obvi­ously com­mon sense would say that you wouldn’t do that with­out con­sul­ta­tion, so we’d prob­a­bly have a check box in the leader’s “my account” page that would say “Allow mes­sages from other senders to orig­i­nate from my mobile num­ber”, or some­thing to that affect.

Beyond con­tact tools, we want to take advan­tage of the fact that this is a service-based prod­uct and entirely a hosted solu­tion. Part of the rea­son we’re strongly pur­su­ing that is it gives an oppor­tu­nity to equip and direct in a way that decen­tralised sites can’t be. So, a few things we’re think­ing of doing are cen­tralised offer­ings like weekly newslet­ters (sent to lead­ers two days in advance so they’ve got an oppor­tu­nity to see it first) and global blog prop­er­ties that give reviews, cur­rent affairs com­men­tary, etc.

That’s the end of the uni­ver­sal fea­tures that are great for kids and lead­ers alike, but there’s lots more for lead­ers. As I’ve already said, we want this to be self-funding. Part of this is sell­ing elec­tronic ver­sions of dead-tree prod­ucts, as DRM’d PDFs, or as unen­cum­bered PDFs with watermarks/obviously time-sensitive adver­tis­ing (so vio­la­tion of copy­right is glar­ingly obvi­ous). The other part is (for me at least) far more excit­ing, and that’s reselling user generated/contributed con­tent (UGC) under an iStockPhoto-esque model (Basi­cally, profit sharing).

This isn’t just about words on a page — I want to get plenty of video stuff hap­pen­ing, too, because (espe­cially in reformed evan­gel­i­cal Anglican/Baptist/Presbyterian, etc. churches) that doesn’t get nearly enough of a work out as is. It’s a really effec­tive tool for sup­port­ing preaching/bible stud­ies, and it’s been largely over­looked until prob­a­bly early this year (I had my first con­ver­sa­tion with some­one about video resources for small group bible stud­ies as late as July or August this year, I think! They had used a Matthias Media resource which I haven’t encoun­tered, and thought it really helpful).

Pric­ing mod­els for all that are still a lit­tle up in the air, but, from a consumer’s point of view, it’s def­i­nitely going to be afford­able. The project will ulti­mately sit on a server main­tained gratis and depend largely on vol­un­teer labour to admin­is­ter con­tent. The only “costs” are those to the estab­lished Youth­works pub­lish­ing divi­sion, but hope­fully we can tran­si­tion the way they do their high-school level con­tent effec­tively, so they’re com­mis­sion­ing con­tent for the web and sell­ing it there. Some­thing that’s really excit­ing is the pos­si­bil­ity that, instead of com­mis­sion­ing con­tent, it’s pos­si­ble to pur­chase it directly and already cre­ated from a pool of resources on the website.

There’s def­i­nitely a work­able model here, somewhere.

Prayer is greatly wel­comed for:

  • wis­dom try­ing to fig­ure that model out
  • energy and resources to make it hap­pen (in what­ever form)
  • adop­tion and enthu­si­asm from youth lead­ers and kids
  • effec­tive­ness in web strat­egy as we attempt to use it as an evan­ge­lis­tic out­reach tool, and a tool for the growth of exist­ing ministry
  • and, hand-in-hand with that last point, that God’s will be done and if He wills it, that growth would be given!

TACKLES Intergalactic Adventure

It was a great suc­cess on Fri­day night, praise God. We had a cou­ple of kids who don’t usu­ally come to TACKLES come along, and they all loved it … and we (the lead­ers, that is) all loved it! Haha. I’ve got a cou­ple of pho­tos but won’t post them here… sigh. Pretty sure we’re cleared to use them but… whatever.

Any­way, here’s a mas­sive (it’s like 3x2m/10x6.5′) paint­ing they all did over the course of the evening:

1 Peter 2:11 - Dear friends, I urge you as aliens and strangers in the world to abstain from sinful desires which war against your soul

Awe­some, huh?

FEVA not-marketing, motivation, and red wine

FEVA’s “Pro­mot­ing the Word through Image and Text” con­fer­ence (they will break my link fairly quickly, methinks, but it’s good whilst it lasts) was today, and it rocked.

Ses­sions about archi­tec­ture to cre­ative strate­gies to the the­ol­ogy of “pro­mo­tion” (which we don’t call mar­ket­ing for fear of stir­ring the con­tro­versy pot) to a rather help­ful copy­right ses­sion (albeit one rais­ing more ques­tions than it answered), as well as great food, a com­fort­able venue, and gen­er­ally excel­lent organ­i­sa­tion, etc.

Go along next year.

And, now that pos­i­tive rec­om­men­da­tion is cemented firmly with­out men­tion of the web…

I did, how­ever, take great excep­tion to the web strat­egy speaker, who I am tempted to pour out all man­ner of vit­ri­olic utter­ances against but will attempt to refrain. He essen­tially said that footer keyword-stuffing was fine, as was spam­ming meta tags (though, thank­fully, he acknowl­edged search engines pay “less atten­tion” to them these days — I would put that closer to “insignif­i­cant atten­tion and not worth the markup bloat they so often are”). Every­thing he had to say about con­tent for the web could be sur­mised in the key­word, “key­words”, pay­ing no atten­tion to the dif­fer­ent copy-writing demands of web media and the flow-on effects of organic key­word enhance­ment. Fur­ther, he man­aged to sug­gest online games for youth and prize com­pe­ti­tions as legit­i­mate mar­ket­ing tac­tics, which, to me, seems brain-dead — per­haps I should just say “an unpro­duc­tive use of time”. The entire pre­sen­ta­tion appeared to have been repur­posed from a very basic web 1001 pre­sen­ta­tion to small busi­nesses, with­out much (or any) regard for audi­ence feedback.

For exam­ple, he asked ques­tions at the begin­ning to get an indi­ca­tion of where the audi­ence was at in terms of web pres­ence (I would say well over 90% had a web­site, with prob­a­bly half of that being main­tained in some capac­ity — yes, our web­site is get­ting touched up soon… heh, in all my free time) and then pro­ceeded to com­pletely ignore that (although he did act very sur­prised at the num­ber of hands that went up) and tell every­one about how to get online in the first place. Com­plete with the worst in Pow­er­point pre­sen­ta­tion technique.

Def­i­nitely not a high­light of the day!

Any­way, that aside, I went home feel­ing pretty moti­vated to Get­Stuff­Done™ and started on the three gazil­lion changes pend­ing for the Matthias site… then gave up when Budd called say­ing Borat was on. I’ve gen­er­ally had a great evening, though — a few hours with a glass of red wine and a sense of accom­plish­ment as con­tent takes shape, then a con­ver­sa­tion about using Google Maps to plot some 2,100 retail out­lets effec­tively (no con­sen­sus as to how to achieve this yet, because that’s 2,100 points to be ren­dered client-side as an over­lay, which would prob­a­bly crash some browsers, if not make them run hideously slowly — but the brain is churn­ing over), then watch­ing that crazy movie. Yeah, you’ve got to laugh at it, but… gosh. Really hope they went back and explained it was satire to some of those peo­ple, if not apol­o­gis­ing out­right. Hav­ing said that, I think he’s reached the lim­its of the per­sona; it really got a bit repet­i­tive and pre­dictable (but still evok­ing laugh­ter for shock value) in parts. I still laughed loudly.

Any­way. More to come soon.

Roman Catholic reform?

An illus­trated con­ver­sa­tion with Car­di­nal Cor­mac Murphy-O’Connor, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church in Eng­land and Wales, explor­ing his pen­e­trat­ing insights on the Church’s role in a post mod­ern, mul­ti­cul­tural and sec­u­lar Britain.

For broad­cast on Com­pass: Pil­grim Cor­mac. Sun­day 15 Octo­ber at 22:15 on ABC TV, Fri­days at 9.05am, 4.30pm, 7.30pm and 9.45pm on ABC2 (Dig­i­tal only, IIRC)

I heard a radio promo for this last night and it sounds really interesting/bizarre. One of the things Murphy-O’Connor is reput­edly argu­ing is that the “Parish” con­cept is too large/impersonal for the unchurched (they didn’t use that word, I wouldn’t nor­mally either, but I’ve been read­ing too many reformed mis­sional blogs/websites of late and it’s start­ing to become a part of my vocab­u­lary, for bet­ter or worse), postmodern-influenced, sec­u­larised British per­son. Accord­ingly, he is (appar­ently, again with­out hav­ing seen the pro­gramme) advo­cat­ing a new approach/structure of fel­low­ship cen­tred around meet­ing in people’s homes/more casu­ally. One (pre­sum­ably sig­nif­i­cant) part of this is for prayer and bible study.

Which is excit­ing, to say the least.

Appar­ently there are only 4 mil­lion peo­ple who call them­selves Roman Catholics that Cor­mac Murphy-O’Connor has the respon­si­bil­ity of serv­ing (this is in Eng­land and Wales: 50– and 3-million pop­u­la­tion respec­tively), which has prob­a­bly con­tributed some impe­tus to reform. This idea that smaller groups are bet­ter for fel­low­ship (jar­gon for meet­ing together and talk­ing) than larger bod­ies is in inter­est­ing con­trast with large (chiefly Pen­ta­costal) churches that don’t seem to have (pub­licly) popped up in the UK par­tic­u­larly lots. British cul­tural thing? Roman-Catholic church thing? It’s hard to tell.

Cer­tainly it would seem that there are senses in which belong­ing to a larger com­mu­nity can be of equal value to small groups… and in which small groups pre­vent the poten­tial detach­ment of larger ‘com­mu­nity’. But it’s espe­cially inter­est­ing that a church defined by its cen­tral­ity of lead­er­ship and centuries-old adher­ence to struc­ture defined by Tra­di­tion (cap­i­tal T as in defined by Roman church, not tra­di­tion as derived from the bible) over Scrip­ture is appar­ently mov­ing back to meet­ing pri­vately, pos­si­bly (prob­a­bly, given clergy short­ages and so forth) con­sist­ing wholly of lay peo­ple, read­ing God’s word and pray­ing together. One can only won­der what this means for tradition-bound non-Biblical prac­tices such as confession.

Maybe I’m just think­ing wish­fully. It’s been a week of Roman Catholic outreach-ish stuff at Uni and there are some really bizarre things that keep crop­ping up. The ‘prob­lem’ (it is a prob­lem, I’m just hes­i­tant to call it that because I know peo­ple are going to be offended… as though the rest of this post were com­pletely innocu­ous) of Roman Catholi­cism isn’t going away any more than lib­eral Chris­tian­ity and false teachers.

But false prophets also arose among the peo­ple, just as there will be false teach­ers among you, who will secretly bring in destruc­tive here­sies, even deny­ing the Mas­ter who bought them, bring­ing upon them­selves swift destruc­tion.
2 Peter 2:1

Keep pray­ing.